Post by Steve Gardener on Jul 1, 2010 15:26:48 GMT
This can be one of those questions answered by comparisons about amino acid profiles, slow and fast digestion times and so on. One, which I saw just minutes ago and so inspired my fingers to waft over the keyboard, seemed confused about one to get lean with and one to add muscle with, but there's no need.
It's the same ya daft FREAKS!!
Whether it's MPC, WPC, WPI, a blend, cold processed or sprinkled with fairy dust like many a tool - it's all in how it's used.
Dropping body-fat, or leaning out, is about calorific control. Either energy expenditure (you train and thus use fat up) or how many pass that portal known as a mouth (less equates to lower amounts of blubber).
By the same token if keeping lean works with whatever product (let's call it X) set at 100g a day for example, then adding a little more of X adds more for muscle building and gaining. You've got an article on this site telling you how to work out your needs so read it.
Now we have some forms of proteins on our site. Here's how best they can be used baring in mind the above statement.
WPC 80 As I said many times - WPC 80 (whey protein concentrate with at least 80% protein) is the industry standard. It forms the base of pretty much every straight (not fucked up with) protein on sale today. Ours is a straight up, no frills, nowt added unflavored product.
Now just to clarify a point, baring in mind what inspired el typerino: In the same way a spanner can help build a car as well as break one down a few percent difference in the protein content of a product is not what makes the difference between building muscle and not. It's the total that does. Just adjust your intake. One doesn't need a WPI (90 plus % protein content) any more than a WPC 75 or lower if ALL of the figures and ratios are allowed for when making ones nutritional calculations.
Flavored WPC (80) The same as the unflavored just with flavoring, etc, added. Naturally this alters the ratios a little (usually, in products with a little flavor) by around 2%. It's often argued, by those with a sweet tooth, that 'if it's more easy to drink then I'll grow cos I can neck it'. While factually true it also says a good deal about their desire for size and strength.
One word or three of warning. Some of the most popular proteins on the market get rave reviews over the 'awesome cake mix like flavor' (one actually has this) and others have cookie bits in and so on. The ratios of macro-nutrients on these products is often below, in the case of protein content, 60%. If you've not carefully read and clearly understood the label you may well be getting far more carbs and sugar than you thought. Indeed a few products are worse as some customer tests have revealed even lower ratios than those indicated on the label.
MPC Our 'slow protein'. MPC (milk protein concentrate) is the one which has the highest proportions of Micellar Casein. With a few names used to describe what is, in fact, the EXACT same product it is also know as 'Micellar Casein, Instantised Micellar Casein, Milk Protein, Instantised Milk Protein and Instantised Casein'. When you're looking for a drip fed or night time protein or for adding to a whey product and thus producing your own blend then MPC is ideal.
Soy, Milk, Egg and Whey blend. Our product is ideal as a 'add-to' protein and carb mix. Richly flavored (esp the caramel/choc combo) you can boost the protein content by adding one of our unflavored proteins to it. As it stands it's far higher carb content makes it best suited as a lean mass gainer. Its ratios are very similar to those used in MRP's (meal replacement powders). The addition of a little vitamin mix and or some fiber would be easily remedied.
WPC75: Same as WPC 80, just less protein and more carbs and fat. Truly one for personal preference. The carbs and fat make it taste slightly richer.
Take ANY of our products and factor the numbers into the total ratios you use. That's ALL foods, ALL the protein and ALL the calories. As per the post in question WPI isn't for building muscle any more than the soy, milk, egg and whey is if you allow for the numbers.
It's the same ya daft FREAKS!!
Whether it's MPC, WPC, WPI, a blend, cold processed or sprinkled with fairy dust like many a tool - it's all in how it's used.
Dropping body-fat, or leaning out, is about calorific control. Either energy expenditure (you train and thus use fat up) or how many pass that portal known as a mouth (less equates to lower amounts of blubber).
By the same token if keeping lean works with whatever product (let's call it X) set at 100g a day for example, then adding a little more of X adds more for muscle building and gaining. You've got an article on this site telling you how to work out your needs so read it.
Now we have some forms of proteins on our site. Here's how best they can be used baring in mind the above statement.
WPC 80 As I said many times - WPC 80 (whey protein concentrate with at least 80% protein) is the industry standard. It forms the base of pretty much every straight (not fucked up with) protein on sale today. Ours is a straight up, no frills, nowt added unflavored product.
Now just to clarify a point, baring in mind what inspired el typerino: In the same way a spanner can help build a car as well as break one down a few percent difference in the protein content of a product is not what makes the difference between building muscle and not. It's the total that does. Just adjust your intake. One doesn't need a WPI (90 plus % protein content) any more than a WPC 75 or lower if ALL of the figures and ratios are allowed for when making ones nutritional calculations.
Flavored WPC (80) The same as the unflavored just with flavoring, etc, added. Naturally this alters the ratios a little (usually, in products with a little flavor) by around 2%. It's often argued, by those with a sweet tooth, that 'if it's more easy to drink then I'll grow cos I can neck it'. While factually true it also says a good deal about their desire for size and strength.
One word or three of warning. Some of the most popular proteins on the market get rave reviews over the 'awesome cake mix like flavor' (one actually has this) and others have cookie bits in and so on. The ratios of macro-nutrients on these products is often below, in the case of protein content, 60%. If you've not carefully read and clearly understood the label you may well be getting far more carbs and sugar than you thought. Indeed a few products are worse as some customer tests have revealed even lower ratios than those indicated on the label.
MPC Our 'slow protein'. MPC (milk protein concentrate) is the one which has the highest proportions of Micellar Casein. With a few names used to describe what is, in fact, the EXACT same product it is also know as 'Micellar Casein, Instantised Micellar Casein, Milk Protein, Instantised Milk Protein and Instantised Casein'. When you're looking for a drip fed or night time protein or for adding to a whey product and thus producing your own blend then MPC is ideal.
Soy, Milk, Egg and Whey blend. Our product is ideal as a 'add-to' protein and carb mix. Richly flavored (esp the caramel/choc combo) you can boost the protein content by adding one of our unflavored proteins to it. As it stands it's far higher carb content makes it best suited as a lean mass gainer. Its ratios are very similar to those used in MRP's (meal replacement powders). The addition of a little vitamin mix and or some fiber would be easily remedied.
WPC75: Same as WPC 80, just less protein and more carbs and fat. Truly one for personal preference. The carbs and fat make it taste slightly richer.
Take ANY of our products and factor the numbers into the total ratios you use. That's ALL foods, ALL the protein and ALL the calories. As per the post in question WPI isn't for building muscle any more than the soy, milk, egg and whey is if you allow for the numbers.
